Who was the Rock? 0114

Who was the Rock?

Catholicism claims Peter is The Rock upon who the Church was built. They double-down by further claiming that Peter was the First Pope. They do this to justify all the clearly unbiblical doctrines and traditions added to Catholicism over the years. It is the question of authority. Do the popes have authority over the Bible, in areas that they disagree? Ironically, they claim Biblical authority to undermine Biblical authority!

Let ‘s see what the Bible says…

Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. (Matthew 16:16-18 NKJV)

“The Rock, his work is perfect, for all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he. They sacrificed to demons that were no gods, to gods they had never known, to new gods that had come recently, whom your fathers had never dreaded. You were unmindful of the Rock that bore you, and you forgot the God who gave you birth. They have made me jealous with what is no god; they have provoked me to anger with their idols. So I will make them jealous with those who are no people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation. “For they are a nation void of counsel, and there is no understanding in them. If they were wise, they would understand this; they would discern their latter end! How could one have chased a thousand, and two have put ten thousand to flight, unless their Rock had sold them, and the Lord had given them up? For their rock is not as our Rock; our enemies are by themselves. Then he will say, ‘Where are their gods, the rock in which they took refuge, And when Moses had finished speaking all these words to all Israel, (Deuteronomy 32:4, 17, 18, 21, 28-31, 37, 45 ESV)

In You, O Lord, I put my trust; Let me never be put to shame. Deliver me in Your righteousness, and cause me to escape; Incline Your ear to me, and save me. Be my strong refuge, To which I may resort continually; You have given the commandment to save me, For You are my rock and my fortress. Deliver me, O my God, out of the hand of the wicked, Out of the hand of the unrighteous and cruel man. (Psalms 71:1-4 NKJV)

As for God, His way is perfect; The word of the Lord is proven; He is a shield to all who trust in Him. “For who is God, except the Lord ? And who is a rock, except our God? God is my strength and power, And He makes my way perfect. “The Lord lives! Blessed be my Rock! Let God be exalted, The Rock of my salvation! (II Samuel 22:31-33, 47 NKJV)

I will love You, O Lord, my strength. The Lord is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer; My God, my strength, in whom I will trust; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold. For You will light my lamp; The Lord my God will enlighten my darkness. As for God, His way is perfect; The word of the Lord is proven; He is a shield to all who trust in Him. For who is God, except the Lord ? And who is a rock, except our God? The Lord lives! Blessed be my Rock! Let the God of my salvation be exalted. (Psalms 18:1, 2, 28, 30, 31, 46 NKJV)

Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness. (I Corinthians 10:1-5 NKJV)

Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture, “Behold, I lay in Zion A chief cornerstone, elect, precious, And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.” Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient, “The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone,” and “A stone of stumbling And a rock of offense.” They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed. But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy. (I Peter 2:4-10 NKJV)

I ask you plainly, who does scripture say IS THE ROCK? Is it a succession of men who are called father (Pope is Latin for “father”) who keeps changing the Gospel, or is it God, our Lord, Jesus Christ who says it is from God that never changes? The moment this succession of men changed ( ignored, added, or twisted) from what the Bible said was truth, they were condemned and accursed. Everyone who follows these corrupt leaders are also still condemned and accursed. The Rock is our spiritual anchor that keeps us close to Jesus Christ, so close in fact, that the Bible says we are living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. This truth is unchanging, pure, defined. Sticking to this truth testifies to our being part of God’s spiritual House. It is a license to hold truth, not change or corrupt it. Those who try, stumble away from Christ, A stone of stumbling And a rock of offense.” They stumble, being disobedient to The Word, to which they also were appointed. Conversely, those who hold on to Christ, have the unchangeable words of eternal life. But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.

Then Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you also want to go away?” But Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. Also we have come to believe and know that You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” (John 6:67-69 NKJV)

You have been graciously warned by Holy Scripture to follow only Christ. We both know that Catholicism, everything that makes it different from first century Biblical Christianity, is different than Protestantism. Christ alone is our authority.
I’m a Protestant, because I seek to be Biblical, and reject every unBiblical and non-Biblical claim made by anyone, including those enslaved to Catholicism.
If you are a Catholic, You are a Catholic, because you believe what Catholicism claims over what the Bible does. One of us has to be wrong, deceived. I don’t believe either of us ultimately has a free choice. The Spirit that is in each of us is different.
I pray that God will call you out of darkness into His marvelous light; who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.

In Christ,

AZ4Christ.wordpress.com

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~ by az4christ on January 10, 2014.

2 Responses to “Who was the Rock? 0114”

  1. The first thing that strikes me about your writing style, is that you quote various Bible verses, and then proceed to give your interpretation of them. In other words, you don’t limit yourself to the words of the Bible alone. Why not? If we are to follow the Bible alone, then why do you feel it necessary to add several paragraphs of your own, in addition to quoting the scriptures? Aren’t the scriptures clear enough on their own to make your case?

    The fact is, they’re not. The scriptures simply do not directly address the question you raise.

    Let’s take at look at what you do here:

    First, you cite Mt. 16:18 ff.: Jesus asks Peter who he says that he (Jesus) is, and Peter answers “Thou art the Christ”, etc. Jesus then says, “Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church.” You then give a lot of biblical passages which refer to God as Rock. So what we can see from the scriptures you quote, by themselves, without adding your commentary, is that God is called “Rock”, and that Jesus (who is God) re-named Simon “Rock”.

    Your argument seems to be, “God is called Rock, therefore no one else may ever be referred to as Rock.” And yet, the scriptural fact is that Jesus gave Simon a name which means “rock”! So I submit that your argument fails.

    A counter-argument which may be made, is that God, in the person of Jesus, giving Simon the name “Rock” — a name which previously only referred to God himself — might well have done so for some significant reason! It’s not conclusively proven by the scriptures alone, but I think it’s a reasonable inference.

    • Agellius commented on Who was the Rock?

      Who was the Rock? Catholicism claims Peter is The Rock upon who the Church was built. They double-down by further claiming …

      The first thing that strikes me about your writing style, is that you quote various Bible verses, and then proceed to give your interpretation of them. In other words, you don’t limit yourself to the words of the Bible alone. Why not? If we are to follow the Bible alone, then why do you feel it necessary to add several paragraphs of your own, in addition to quoting the scriptures? Aren’t the scriptures clear enough on their own to make your case?

      [duh. The Holy Spirit leads those He saved to all Truth. My blog is directed to the lost. My prayer is that God will save some through my efforts. The lost do not have the holy spirit and are easy marks of the deceptions of the devil. If everyone would prayerfully read the Bible, the elect would be saved. I am simply obeying God’s great commandment and commission.

      “For if I preach the gospel, I have nothing to boast of, for necessity is laid upon me; yes, woe is me if I do not preach the gospel!” (I Corinthians 9:16 NKJV)]

      The fact is, they’re not. The scriptures simply do not directly address the question you raise.

      Let’s take at look at what you do here:

      First, you cite Mt. 16:18 ff.: Jesus asks Peter who he says that he (Jesus) is, and Peter answers “Thou art the Christ”, etc. Jesus then says, “Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church.” You then give a lot of biblical passages which refer to God as Rock. So what we can see from the scriptures you quote, by themselves, without adding your commentary, is that God is called “Rock”, and that Jesus (who is God) re-named Simon “Rock”.

      Your argument seems to be, “God is called Rock, therefore no one else may ever be referred to as Rock.” And yet, the scriptural fact is that Jesus gave Simon a name which means “rock”! So I submit that your argument fails.

      A counter-argument which may be made, is that God, in the person of Jesus, giving Simon the name “Rock” — a name which previously only referred to God himself — might well have done so for some significant reason! It’s not conclusively proven by the scriptures alone, but I think it’s a reasonable inference.

      [ Peter means little rock. The saved are part of the spiritual Body of Christ – little rocks, as it were.

      “Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture, “Behold, I lay in Zion A chief cornerstone, elect, precious, And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.” Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient, “The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone,” and “A stone of stumbling And a rock of offense.” They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed. But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.” (I Peter 2:4-10 NKJV)

      Catholics stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed.]

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